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Mr Prospector & more…

20 Sunday Feb 2022

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Barcaldine, Djebel, Laim's Map, Marco, Mr Prospector, My Babu, Native Dancer, Sweet Lavender, Unbridled

There’s a saying among prospectors: ‘Go out looking for one thing, and that’s all you’ll ever find.’

https://claibornefarm.com/history/hof/mr-prospector/

http://www.teamvalor.com/misc/Mr_Prospector_lives_on.pdf

http://www.americanclassicpedigrees.com/mr-prospector.html

http://thoroughbredancestry.com/category/mr-prospector-line/

https://howgoodridersgetgood.wordpress.com/2011/12/27/sport-horse-pedigrees-part-4-mr-prospector/

Mr Prospector resembled Nashua in phenotype and temperament. When you collect information about individuals in a stallion’s ancestry you can appreciate their contribution of strengths and weaknesses in terms of racing class, airflow, soundness and temperament. European buyers were unsure about Mr. P’s progeny because they had small feet, suitable for firm ground rather than soft turf. Mr P. inherited very short pasterns, perfect for dirt racing whereas Europeans were more accustomed to horse’s with longer pasterns. Ken McLean – Designing Speed in the Racehorse

*A TBL discussion

‘Mr P’.… will 3+ line-breeding or more provide desirable effect or is it factoring a considered liability?

An overall pedigree may be best answered by matter-of-balances throughout.

Mr P supreme ‘sire’ shaper however, the necessary complement – a supreme dominator landscape by degree(s) of contribution highly influencing rather than (alone) parental commonality.

The study: – Munnings 3yo filly, Emirates Oaks and Guineas winner – Shahama – https://www.pedigreequery.com/shahama2.

Firstly back on Mr Prospector’s sire, Native Dancer. The sire imprint determined Eight Belles, tragedy and also tragic event – Ruffian . Mindful, there are 7 strains Native Dancer to Shahama’s pedigree.

7 strains may just bring into question Shahama’s long term racing? However, I say all-good.

What comes into play….the supreme dominator Type balance, distinguishes – 7Dx7D Djebel via My Babu ex- Perfume f.f.1-W & Djeddah ex-distaff, Frizette f.f.13c, same to Mr Prospectors dam-line. ++ Djebel, son of Tourbillon ex-distaff, Frizette f.f.13c. e.g. multiple matri-gene sources. Tourbillon 9sx8x8, benefits.

Further as it has always been and always will – major, major matriarchal influences which double back powerful.

@ https://www.pedigreequery.com/lord+at+war sire female family Sweet Lavender f.f.1-W. In a note shell, this strain is a Marco/Barcaldine inheritance. Further note dam Luna de Miel – a Hurry On/Marcovil/Marco/Barcaldine inheritance.

(n.b. Lord at War, >> Pioneer of the Nile sire of American Pharaoh)

Speightstown son, Munnings, from La Comete by Holy Bull. https://www.pedigreequery.com/holy+bull

Holy Bull attracted attention long back mainly due tracing out inheritance f.f. 2h. back to Sting (USA) from family Sandiway, daughter of Clemence akin, Martha’s daughters….

>> Medina Spirit, has Holy Bull, distaff infused.

Furthermore a fellow researcher brought my attention upon Unbridled **4×5 Rough n’ Tumble by Questionnaire by Sting. Put them together (Holy Bull & Unbridled) ie matriarch’s critical mass, inheritance dominant.

Always perplexing, the enigmatic goes by uncertain pathways. The supreme ‘band’ at what is never obvious yet goes alongside line-breeding, alongside desired pre-eminent trait(s).

A good example – https://www.pedigreequery.com/havre+de+grace5 3×5 Mr P + Hail to Reason (Sweet Lavender f.f.1W + distaff My Babu f.f.1W + ( My Babu 7Dx7dx5d) = 4 strains Lavendula .

Now that Havre de Grace has produced a Justify colt will pedigree students approve the 6 strains Mr P and 14 Native Dancer???

Take note Scat Daddy from familial geno strain f.f. 1W, (not Lavendula however genetically IS Marchetta family from Marco)

*Though the mating is okay, I like to cite that soft patterns follow.

The Example: Liam’s Map (USA) has a grand-dam by Great Above ( sire of Holy Bull) i.e. Rough n’ Tumble/Intentionally/matriach Aspisdistra, dam line of Liam’s Map + Dr Fager are inherent strains perfect.

2) Damascus – 4×5 Fair Play (Godolphin Arabian) + My Babu (Djebel / Pefume Sweet Lavender/Marchetta f.f.1W)

3) Further – **Unbridled + Caro (whom I associate to carry Hurry On i.e. Marco/Barcaldine noting Godolphin Arabian + under-noted influence Le Fabuleux (FR) a Neil Gow/Barcaldine daughter Godolphin Arabian. Neil Gow is also represented thu Olympia/Heliopolis being the dam’s, grand-dam sire. (n.b. Neil Gow rarefied genetic-gold).

This hypo example Liam’s Map/Havre de Grace goes to effect balance upon Mr P. 4x, Native D. 9x thru additionally exercising supreme dominator influences.

Lesson – never over-cook!

Proportion and prepotency are the two primary forces at work in the science of genetic inheritance.

Ross du Bourg

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ozzy good: Highly Decorated (AUS)

11 Wednesday Aug 2021

Posted by Thoroughbred Research in Australian Horse Racing, Australian Thoroughbreds, genotype breeding

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Anna Paola, Djebel, Star Kingdom

Sing n’ praise – the vintage bred pedigrees: a little nuggety 5 yo gelding Highly Decorated shows his ability to run from 1300m to 2050m and become people’s champ to the 2021 Great Northern Darwin Cup.

On topic, another to Danehill (3×4) yet Highly Decorated- his 7 straight wins shall explode theory n’ stat modelling of what is true breeding perfect?

As always ‘was’ – the mare’s genetics are the ‘Thing’, the consideration of what genetic layers as distaff, as built through.

The sleeping dragons Idomenoo (Alycidon) via distaff + Stratum/Luskin Star 6dx5d.

Star Kingdom 8Dx6Dx6D via Mighty Kingdom, Luskin Star, Canny Lad

The infinite, ineffable favourite to any pedigree anyplace, anytime: Djebel/Tourbillon where reproduced – Levandou (FR), Irish River, Never Bend, Targui.

What a mare to own.

Highly Decorated, to his sire Epaulette (AUS) by Commands.

Again the demo: – greatness is the genetic families come via the dam. Epaulette’s dam, a famous German family ‘rich’ to 2yo, 3yo German champion Anna Paola (GER).

Anna Paola – 5th dam of Godolphin’s Frankel 3yo colt and Epsom Derby winner Adayar (Frankel – Anna Salai).

More info to german breeding – Gestüt Röttgen family here

Highly Decorated (AUS) , the winners taste. Due photo credit/acknowledgement: Face book @ Darwin Turf Club

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The Genetic Character – Tarzino (NZ)

05 Tuesday Jan 2021

Posted by Thoroughbred Research in genotype breeding, New Zealand thoroughbred stallion, New Zealand thoroughbreds, pedigree research, race horse breeding, Tarzino

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Djebel, Le Fabuleux, Loika, Tarzino, Tourbillon

The genetic character to Westbury Stud’s sire Tarzino continues to unveil a suspicion – this instinctual nudge not to be ignored.

The TBL research has pushed at a greater prototype that unravels or comes upon dominant ones – alleles’ doing a job.

Utilizing prototype ancestral to arrive how family lines or, what shoots above the rest, has consistence more than middling.

–  late 2020 research alerted that backbone stability unfolds its genetic chain towards speed and stamina.

Evaluating pedigree compels one to realize these non-specific, rather pre-ordained and though we might consider breeding has steps 1.2.3….. it reinforced where trying too hard to exploit speed excluding everything else, is reckless.

In the positive-sense, back-up, prototype strains are highly zig-zag dangerous. Thus, immersion to ascend – Hurry On builds constitution.

The clarity comes often too late…yet, what provides PRO-GENITOR relationship has the defining & lasting genus.

The paradox – how can it be anything else?

It is the at-foot patterns, nicking between ‘at-work’. The knit of why one compels the nick, to another.

Science considers mutational changes to average’s 11-12 generation cycle – this evolutionally plants the character: the building of generational makeup.

As posted → je-ne-sais-quoi: Tarzino (NZ) TBL reckoned the sire would be a game-changer.

Tarzino has a target to his bloodlines that parallel alike. i.e. Djebel/Tourbillon. Like French breeding was – finest Derby winners astutely bred astute, designed to  professional winning alongside long-developed patience.

Patience.

His 2 year old progeny are pre-training trial phrase. This NZ racing video Tarzino-Espresso Cavallo gelding exemplifies what is in store. Additionally, sizing genotype pedigree perfecto hits the nail on the head for…Le Fabuleux (FR) keys the dams pro-genitor relationship backwards to its invisible thread falling upon Neil Gow by Marco and Beppo by Marco, Beppo is the maternal grand-sire of Gay Crusader (GB) and he the sire of Loika, the dam of Djebel. There lays the plait.

The trait, tied to its breeding clearly underpins a sport horse fit for racing adeptness.


(Tarzino photo credits by TBL)

(945) 2015 TARZINO VRC DERBY – YouTube

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