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13 Wednesday Jun 2018

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Sundridge, Sunstar, Vegas Showgirl, Winx

“…the incidence of female family inbreeding declined, it continued to express itself prominently without, perhaps, being adequately recognized.” Leon Rasmussen

A re-examination on Winx (Street Cry – Vegas Showgirl).

It was previously not noticed where the dam’s genotype pedigree (Vegas Showgirl NZ) revealed an extraordinary detail which is worthy of mention. (plus the fact, I am highly annoyed with myself for not to cotton on sooner!…)

Like a Renaissance oil painting it appeared only by peeling back again & again the countless layers of the generational genetic framework. Many may scoff…however genetics are perpetual life, without any end.

The foundational maternal ancestry is framework and is closest to source. It is the ‘setting’ of blood and type, waiting for its opportunity to return where/IF the developing generational breeding has detracted.

Federico Tesio ‘advised’ the planning to go deep. On his account the 9th – 12th generations back and we have to contemplate why this would be, where our contemporary breeding has joyfully revered duplication with in-breeding siring merits as best ‘success’.

The Vegas Showgirl (NZ) spotlight goes @ 9th remove to stallion Sundridge (GB) and his son Sunstar (GB) and please take note, the doubling great grand maternal inbreeding lines to these undoubtedly profound stallions of their time.

 

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We may  begin to understand why genetic-freaks come rare for he, Sundridge was a low-fertility stallion but held in high regard.

“Sundridge’s name is synomous with brilliance, and his is the kind of professional sprinting speed that appealed on both sides of the Atlantic in the early 1900s.” credit source http://www.tbheritage.com

*Lady Josephine (dam of  “The Flying Filly” Mumtaz Mahal & world’s supreme foundation of speed) was by the sprinter SUNDRIDGE.

“Sunstar  was a courageous colt with the ability to accelerate more than once in a race and reached peak form as a three year old.” Ken McLean , Designing Speed in the Racehorse

*Stardust (Hyperion – Sister Stella, by the Cicero horse Friar Marcus from Etoile, by Sunstar “The Stardust male line dynasty has changed the face of Australasian racing, although his descendants have inexplicably sunk into oblivion in most other parts of the world” Ross du Bourg

The invisible, comes stage front: Winx (Street Cry/Vegas Showgirl) where we plea the pedigree god’s for Winx’s racing invincibility and as to why the magic-nick. View the Winx pedigree & screen placement for – Count Fleet (USA) 6Sx8Sx8dx7D, Stardust (GB) 9Xx9sx9Dx9d

= SUNDRIDGE

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Part II – is there breeding for another Winx? & what has happened thus so far ?

From my last blog Superior Performers: inferior breeders we attempted to account for the impact of 1 peculiar strain/trait which really pumps a superior performing pedigree, but for various & unknown reasons declines with other progeny or of other mating’s.

The spotlight for Vegas Showgirl progeny, Winxs siblings are…..

Boulder City, El Divino, Old Friend – all colts by Snitzel plus a filly named Courvechal being also by Snitzel. So does Snitzel’s genotype look right? Does the wonderful Snitzel (AUS) complement to assimiliate?

 The traits we seek (as mentioned above) come shallow. Solario (IRE) through Silly Season, Star Kingdom (by Stardust), multiple crosses of Mumtaz Mahal however the question really begs as uncertainty: comes too indeterminate or has inconsistency upon the pedigree, takes no consistent depth or range, to one potent siring individual like for say,  Star Kingdom’s (IRE). Secondly, Snitzel is a sprinter product,  2 year old sprinting siring machine and brilliant as he is, this is clearly, not a mare for his harem.

Miss Atom Bomb, mare by Encosta de Lago – Weak – apart from 1 infusion Count Fleet, via Mr Prospector.

PMNX, filly by Machiavellian. More favourable through the siring line ‘tho lesser comparable to Street Cry. The pedigree cries for more ‘strains’; the depth to be worked and identified to above.

Win Win Leader, gelding by Fastnet Rock. Disappointing here for but 1 infusion Star Kingdom. Personally, I find Danehill’s on the paternal top line  for  the rarer, superior, superior bred takes difficulty. I assume this is because of his natural sprinting makeup has transpired appropriately to successful sprinters and of sprinting racing programmes raising his profile.

From the Hyperion line, Star Kingdom’s (IRE) male descendants, why have they dearly departed? (Australian General List 27 seasons from 1951/52 through to 1977-78 , Star Kingdom, son of Stardust had 5 titles!!) This loss, is clearly lack of diversity, in action.

For my money…re, Vegas Showgirl (NZ) with her inherent traits are those Siring options which add/ project Count Fleet strains through Mr Prospector’s and Riverman →Prince John

And clearly, as many of those recovering strains as possible.

Your criteria and feedback is welcome to this blog.

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Superior Performers: inferior breeders

11 Monday Jun 2018

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1-P, Black Caviar, Franco Varola, Pocahontas, strains, thoroughbred breeding

“The Thoroughbred World is not a static one: on the contrary, it is evolving at a very fast pace” – Franco Varola.

After decades of stock-farm breeding, it was a casual remark of the old man, where he prudently observed ‘female’ superior performers did not go on… to produce progeny equal to them.

Quizzical as it was then & still is, it remains a cautionary omen to validate or not.

From farming practises at my own account, a high-performer did just that….& was not the at-depth, maternal breeder. She dismally bred.  The more or less lesser/sounder type would soundly produce.

This phenomena is complex and upon the restraints of thoroughbred breeding where Tesio thinking had maternal inherent forces – a limitation to nervous energy – life’s battery is to restore: the female-line  reaches ‘zenith’ and in natural decline. Other old books mention saturation point – again, the zenith of the blood-lines at their natural completion.

Also take consideration, the most obvious – genetic variation. Whatever science, theory of any application one may wish to apply, TBL believes one thing which is not of scientific research or discovery but ‘limits-to-growth’ – a natural sustainability instinctively enforced. Specifically it is conservation in breeding.

– James (1990, AUS): Selection Limits in Thoroughbred Horses

He reasoned that actual heritability is almost certainly lower than appears, and that it is not certain that performance and time are closely correlated. In his opinion, a positive estimate of genetic trend in performance may not be justified. It is conceivable that limited effective population size and intense selection have led to a plateau in performance, and that the appearance of heritability of perfor-mance is illusory.

James argued, whether it is possible that a selection limit has been reached, since there are clear examples of such limits in laboratory populations, though these may sometimes be surpassed by the provision of new variation through spontaneous or induced mutation or through crossing.

Credit source http://www.ovrevoll.no/Ovrevoll/2014%20bannere/eftbanewsltr_22_2016%20(2).pdf

A dedicated conservation in breeding approach targets a long-term strategy: survival of the species, for if breeding to extract only desirable speed traits alone, it upon generations configures at another – the leading principal element declines – lungs n’ heart and physical capacity. Common sense is – one cannot be without the other.

(MY point comes from parallel example where from what ‘was’ New Zealand stock-farm, breeding in-house  & uniquely individual breeders crossed over to industry EBV’s: the genetic data-base compiling statistical performances for high-production desired traits and raising probability through ‘select’ superior males with assessed high-quality traits globally. It is a matter of opinion how one references this to each working environment but my general view what has eventuated….is that an individual  animal life-span shortened dramatically, more herd numbers for a desired level of production and cross-breeding intensely to have composites as standard breeding raising undesirable health aspects arising to the forefront of the  dairying industry. i.e. mycoplasma bovine virus). In effect, over time and generations, a weaker specimen has eventuated.

Perhaps, whilst having gone ‘off track’ a little) – the applications of maternal breeding, let’s just say: the higher principle towards conservation in breeding must aim at long-term reflections upon horse & welfare & environment. That is, fit for purpose.

As global racing stars, they where highly anticipated to breed – the face of glitter and star glamour marketing went crazy upon progeny of world sprinting champions of Black Caviar (AUS) and also, of the siblings to Winx.

Horlicks, Sunline, Black Caviar & alike etc etc etc. are all absolute stand-out performers but curiously will/would not be superior breeders and though one might like to wonder and adore of their racing attributes, they transpire to be after their racing career, physically worn-out identities.

As causes of selection limits – a plateau in performance despite continued selection – he identified several points:

  • Selection is not effective;
  • the environment is deteriorating;
  • natural selection opposes artificial selection;
  • additive genetic variance is exhausted

Credit source http://www.ovrevoll.no/Ovrevoll/2014%20bannere/eftbanewsltr_22_2016%20(2).pdf

Speculation of equal progeny produced thereafter is pure theatre – unless one is prepared to wait through generational cycles for the genome brilliance to reappear.

Nevertheless it is forever thought-provoking to speculate upon brilliance & the progeny, the campaign of  suitable sire, across every *star* correct-pedigree and attempt to see what is, & what-is-not-happening to the breeding genetic template what gave.

For the most part, ‘undoing’ pedigrees of a superior performer is the Must – that is, to go to the structure and hub assessing where the pivotal key strain stages nucleus, dynamic. This is because upon the new pedigree infusion/cross – where each/every genetic dial-up will be either genetic ingression or digression upon the siring broodmare siring infusions.

The two nucleus parentage(s) – sires broodmare siring is upmost specific, crucial and defining….for selection of performance traits, in probability.

To view how lines ‘meld’ is only the beginning….it is to take view where a ‘shine’ in the grain of wood goes; what strain lines ooooomf the pedigree. Vision a pedigree as a 3-legged stool: speed/stamina structure,  support co-joining blood-lines as strength, a balance to suggest figured potency.

We have prior analysed the Black Caviar: ‘diamonds’ within a pedigree of family tap-root, 1-P female family.

This 1-P strain has noble history infusing the ancestress Pocahontas, plus the rare sourced (nowadays) of female family 24, exceptionally ‘formative’ transcendent  to the bare few & best bred viz. the Thoroughbred.

  • the progeny: Oscietra – Exceed n’ Excel (AUS)/ Black Caviar. (as above) I have prior written on Black Caviar (FF 1-P) the double-cross of Vain 3sx4d and upon infusion re: Court Martial (FF 1-P) assimiliation plus, Hornbeam (FF 1-P) through Lunchtime (UK) Attempt to appreciate female strains, as genetic blood transfers (if you will) to the bridge and connection of ‘type’.
  •  Female Strains / traits / mitochondrial DNA

From within the genotype pedigree, (it must be viewed!) where if to diffuse this crucial element, as ‘strain’, it is to disrupt that star ‘thumb-print’ for Black Caviar progeny.

TBL observation – the essential strains 1-P are not ‘available’ in the stallion Exceed n’ Excel (AUS) pedigree. The  sprinting and young siring machine EE is, is not complementary as to say recover genetic endurance: breeding by truer definition is the carefully bred. Secondly, the aspects of EE’s , the Natalma 2-d influences are assigned differing ‘type’. Refer to the ancestry aka Alamahoud. Please do note I/we are not disputing the dynastic quality of the profound Alamahoud bloodline but personally will challenge the overdo melding (concentrations) which alternates duplicity of a ‘cross’.

The Black Caviar  colt –  Prince of Caviar from Sebring/Black Caviar , genetically suggests same thoughts as above.

It goes where there is an odd and ancient truism  practical breeders of all kinds of stock, that the value of the any family is mainly in proportion to the purity of its origin.

  •  the crucial – in proportion, purity as concentration), origin (foundation, source).)

I always think magnificence arrives in unobvious detail. It is essential to understand pedigree peculiarities present ‘unseen’ opportunity or, point to a genomic trend orbiting to the present-day day & which can be (at best) astutely uncovered.

This is the nature, and conservation of thoroughbred breeding.

(following blog Winx’s siblings…..)

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27 Friday Apr 2018

Posted by Thoroughbred Research in Australian Thoroughbreds, genotype, pedigree analysis, pedigree research, thoroughbred pedigree analysis, thoroughbred pedigrees, thoroughbred racehorse analysis

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Its about uncovering pedigree to examine the female lines.

Many discussions I had with father and friends towards ideals: breeding genuine lines/genuine families.

Old days, Dad was a reputable breeder of stud Friesian cows, 40 years +. Add to that, a number of beefies, and the few thoroughbreds.

The breeding technique where his guiding principle – endlessly screening ‘purity’ direct, near as to ‘roots’.

Understandably one might wonder what dairying, farming practices, has to do with today’s thoroughbreds. Well, its these breeding dynamics which breed stock.

Its the diligence to understand.

No technology, repeatedly read history, breeding books, analysing, read-between-lines, deduce and come upon ancestral relationships. Out to the paddocks and observe ‘type. Its the yarning over a back-fence where many ‘unscripted’ understandings towards breeding finds its breadth, breed-to-purpose and performance.

–  onwards strength as specie.

The thoroughbred is still and always hybrid: its composite strains through bloodlines.

There are favourable ‘family’ strains: come stronger to the thoroughbred population.

Breeding goes through its cyclic, the selection on going & hopefully to appropriate sire. The selection decision has the next generation to; it becomes broodmare sire and its influences to next generations thereof. This is selection: the infusions, the capacity to build the desired effect.

Sir Patrick Hogan said something how, breeding-is-not-racing, racing-is-not-breeding.) Thoroughbred Breeding: A MASTER OF TIME

Father often commented: “what a magnificent animal but as a breeder, he is a disaster down the track. You’ll get into trouble with the likes of these.”

On tour, a woman lightly commented, where mares had gotten too big. This  might also suggest, where is the TB going….?

To breed is not to only aim at esteemed bloodlines, but the depth, with its  optimal phenotype: constitution, ‘gait’, flexible.

Multi-faceted criteria’s take due consideration, what factors breeding to the racehorse ideal ?

Though we recognize breeding landscapes change, and more genetic material is increasingly available, I suggest the core-fundamentals don’t.

And, every now & then we might reflect and be reminded some caution applies.

Such has been the improvement in the anaerobic capacity to todays thoroughbred and the total absence of aerobic improvement or it may even be decline of aerobic performance. These change of the last 30 years must be appreciated in any scientific study of todays thoroughbred. Because the thoroughbred has changed, the training and breeding management may no longer be applicable. The anaerobic horse is better, but as a consequence more physiologically fragile.

credit: Australasian Thoroughbred Science Review Jan. 1987

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