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Conduit, of essential Difference (Part 2)

17 Thursday Oct 2019

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Bolero, Crimson Saint, Crimson Satan, Sainfoin, Sierra, Storm Cat, Sundridge

Its the Learning, over and over… what genotype unravels ‘truest’, to tear fearlessly through every finest individual.

– to find layman explanation, where/how superior pedigrees fire the way they do, to produce ‘unexpected’ latency to the high-performing individual.  

Science/genomics has greatly escalated.  There is CC speed, CT middle-distance, TT stayer, Y-Herod, and motivational (gait-keeper) genes. Take its sci-business – research/test what your individual horse has or not, and thus train accordingly. Wow!

Mitchondrial DNA halotype data-base, continues to challenge stud-book identity. It benefits and remodels, forcing the thoroughbred frontiers to the new. We gain some better appreciation, to what maybe happening per breeding successfully.

Meanwhile…. for boutique-breeders left to work on small budgets and with Nature’s providence, requirements to genuine breeding is, as always, ‘doing the homework’.

I listen to folks and though may be confused?… the desire to stoke pedigree fire has these days lesser appeal. Where folk project 4 legs head n’ tail hybrid thoroughbred without addressing not depth but ‘fit’ relevancy at purpose, phenotype strains.

Your lesson is to Seek what particular trait fires not speed alone, but the transfer ‘aptitude of ultimate expression’!

(IMO) its not only appreciating the Stockwell, Pocahontas, St Simon ancestries but where will ‘memory’ ancestral conduits follow, to arouse?  It is not alone, by linear finger-tracing at the pedigree: it is by scouting out few, modern ‘catalyst’ trait carriers which provides the key to spatial relationship, to its underlying structural formulate.

Indeed this, the long exercise complexity to an inexact science etc and some things (maybe) are of a crystal ball……(wink)

... its emphatically evident (to myself) there are bare few, perfecting ‘band’ of DNA traits to keep re-emerging their dynastic latent potency, to Influence. But, as ‘they’ want. Human expectation is a terrible thing to expect each/every mating has a successful individual. Mendel, and  Punnett Square certainly applies. Further, it is never entertained Nature simply conserves, not exploits, thus a natural retrogression exists. And, this is where we are Now it seems….

Sermon over…..

Its the very traits, strains, through the individuals, what has them fit for the environment they are bred for. I say this because individual environments (countries and climate) somewhat differ in practice: terms of horse development (age), pre-training developments, sale and racing ownership, to racing program.

Strains n’ traits they are never so simply outright obvious, by the immediate sire/mare but clues are …..   “The catalyst lays in the soft zones, 5th – 7th generation to the exceptional genetic ‘catalyst’ via, the individuals paternal broodmare sire, merged over maternal broodmare sire and Inclusive of grand-maternal sire”. JSB

The trick to pinpoint such conduits, then build the breed, the breeding.

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STORM CAT (line)

Before presenting Storm Cat….. sight Conduit, of essential Difference – Part one (see diagrams) how affinity to bloodline relationships keep diving back to ‘same’ quality  prototype.

Read again: affinity to bloodline relationships keep diving back to ‘same’ quality.

With admiration, due credit to Ken McLean, he prophetically sighted: (Designing Speed in the Racehorse) to his work, how researching compatible strains what give major contribution to quick-maturing speed.

…it may not be well known, Federico Tesio, strongly pursued stallions and mares with Tracery to the pedigree. Why would he do so…? Connect another immortal, Man O’ War, a similar conduit explosive to Tracery and presto, the MATERNAL TRAIT.

Tracery (1909) by Rock Sand by Sainfoin, from dam Sanda

Man O War, his dam by Rock Sand by Sainfoin, from dam Sanda

further, Phalaris from dam Bromus by Sainfoin, from dam Sanda

Hurry On from dam Tout Suite by Sainfoin

*Sanda, possessed 37 strains to HEROD.

Sainfoin (from Sanda) – his full sister Sierra, the dam of Sundridge.

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(also interesting where Sundridge factoring is highly noted to successful quarter-horse breeding).

Oddly, and according to Australian writer, Ken McLean – Sainfoin (as the progenitor to speed) , went largely un-noticed by England’s bloodstock writers and was poorly patronized by breeders. Yet, he was beautiful – well-balanced, smallish and a chestnut. (see photo)

Remarkably he never led the Sires List yet ending up a very successful broodmare sire and of course through Rock Sand, became a distinguishing sire in his own right.

These are the KEYS, the patient breeder can believe –  ‘how’, ‘why’ and where the attention lays, to such important, intricate detail, and for readers to appreciate ‘bloodline speed prototypes’ still and naturally hold out for today’s bred.

BUT – Speed alone, comes broadly perceived/projected/ marketed as competitive, competent breeding to ‘get’ the individual. What speed really means is ‘tempo’ at pace to its endurance to the distance. Perfect.

That speed gene as reliability, is a falsity. It is re-setting the pedigree (at best) for persuading mit.DNA halotypes genetics to maintain homozygous character with aiming also tricking or off-setting epistatic i.e. activating/de-activating masked genes (which is why a diligence delivers back at approx. 5th remove, to beyond).

*prepotency: The ability of one parent to impress its hereditary characters to its progeny because it has more homozygous, dominant or epistatic (i.e.masking) genes. One parent, is prepotent, when it consistently outperforms its partner in transmitting critical racing characteristics. 

  • Epistatic is similar to dominance, except that (unlike dominance) the relationship has non-allelic genes. So a sire homozygous for one or more epistatic genes will produce a certain given trait or traits markedly in his off-spring (reference source, horse-genetics.com/horse genetics

Whilst I can imagine TBL audiences gasp  – the Albert Einstein quote – Look deep into Nature, and then you will understand everything better”

All things return to Nature – that is, primordial order is Natures chemistry & Principle infinite is the stuff of the ‘atom’ .  Upon the subject of mit.DNA haloptype an on-line source http://www.primordiality.com (site, no longer available): to gene decoding @ atomic level and gene sequencing “most types of atoms are capable of molecular attraction. The atoms that are capable of forming organic molecules are of the greatest available number.The natural course of molecular bonding is that not only are the most atoms capable of uniting but that an INHERENT PLAN of seeking out other atoms of a similar capability actually exists within the outer ring electron structure of all atoms, so capable of uniting Primordial Order.

Not too much science way back to Bruce Lowe’s family tabulations day,  but only observatory Mother Nature: “It is a recognized axiom with both physiologists and practical breeders of all kinds of stock, that the value any family is mainly in proportion to the purity of its origin” – Bruce Lowe, Breeding Racehorses by the Figure System

The Conduit Principle, as assigned to Storm Cat where core-genetic legacy carries/trans mutates/catalyst ON thru his mare Crimson Saint, to her sire Crimson Satan from Bolero Rose by Bolero – these elevate a genetic escalator to the quality, of speed.

We learn: Storm Cat was america’s leading sire of two-year olds for 7 times!! His mare Crimson Saint possessed raw, fire speed with ideal physical conformation. Her sire, Crimson Satan, attributed for precocity and speed. Bolero, a chestnut and dynamic for setting two world records, hence, noted to his inbreeding to Rock Sand by Sainfoin

*Latest potential – the exciting USA Godolphin colt  Maxfield (by Street Sense (Street Cry/Machiavellian) from Velvety (ex-Bernardini) to grand-dam sire STORM CAT.  View, Velvety’s 5th dam Finance (by Nasrullah → Sundridge from Busanda (War Admiral/Man O’ War → Rock Sand/Sainfoin. To Velvety grand-dam sire Blue Larkspur (North Star/Sunstar →Sundridge

Storm Cat, his dam Terlingua from Crimson Saint & Royal Academy he from dam Crimson Saint.

Royal Academy, the sire of Australia’s Bel Espirit sire of Australia’s unbeaten beauty, champion sprinter,Black Caviar: ‘diamonds’ within a pedigree

  • New Zealand bred super champion Hong Kong Miler Beauty Generation his dam by Bel Esprit/Royal Academy/Nijinksy from Crimson Saint
  • consistent performer – Get Stormy by Stormy Atlantic by Storm Cat as referenced Conduit, of essential Difference – Part one
  • Star juvenile – Pinatubo by Shamardal by Giants Causeway (Storm Cat) as referenced Conduit, of essential Difference – Part one
  • Lord Kanaloa, sire of Almond Eye (JPN) his broodmare sire Storm Cat.

Crimson Saint by Crimson Satan of the family 26. The Argentina line, known for fleet footed, sprinting. It gets very cool when we discover Crimson Satan ancestral dam goes by a name of Cypron. Cypron is the dam of HEROD. Hello?

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***Further breeding facts: Cypron/Herod the female family 26 as is same, Solario (ff.26) his dam, Sun Worship by Sundridge.

Royal Charger’s dam Sun Princess is twice inbred to Sundridge (Sierra) with his sire, Nearco also with the Sainfoin/Sierra strain, via Nearco’s grandsire Phalaris.

Nasrullah – Nearco/Phalaris →Sainfoin/Sierra, his dam Mumtaz Begum, 3rd dam by Sundridge

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Conduit, of essential Difference – Part one

26 Thursday Sep 2019

Posted by Thoroughbred Research in classic thoroughbred pedigree, genotype, pedigree analysis, pedigree research, race horse breeding, racehorse analysis, Sundridge, thoroughbred pedigree

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Diesis, High Chaparral, Hyperion, I am Invincible, Invincible Spirit, Kris, Pinatubo, Ribot, Selene, Sharpen Up

On the recent NZ stallion tour, I was mindful to the Studmasters commentary, where addressing the challenge to breeding for market; to their observations of how tradition once held to the stamina type, has undergone its progressive change & alongside demand for early speed.

Objectives of genuine breeding meet greater ineffability of breeding and I feel for sure those challenges, how they always follow through, engages a terrific foresight.

As such, for a long brow-beating period, TBL has pondered the subtle & exceptional influences within & of, the high performance individual.

The ‘devil is in the detail’.…. and I shall opinion, it is a pivotal strain which ‘fulfills’ breed shaping criteria.

Step aside from in-breeding, or to that of line-bred individuals; the consideration is to seek the essential conduit of superior difference(s) and aim towards what must be the superior, complete phenotype factor. i.e. dual purpose.

The conduit, what may induce the correct type of consistency: stamping individuals great turn-of-foot, propulsion, to be best from best and win. Better said: the bio-mechanical capability and efficiency.

The task to breeding is to catalyze true conduit factors to induce the finest possible specimen.

To appreciate the general principle – research these pedigrees below and view the breeding trait – what brings the ‘life’ to bloodline.

What made Ribot. (e.g. dam inbred to Sunstar f.f. 5i, via Sundridge)

Hyperion. (dam inbred to Pilgramage by The Palmer f.f. 5i)

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Thus, its not duplicating the pedigree: its revealing it.

The thinking exercise ….the ancestral trait/influence ON the pedigree and what contributing traits support the proposed quality bred, prototype.

The method, is to refine pedigree…..

Why?

Because over a sturdy study to TB heritages and the evolutionary cycles; the invisible spectrum’s of breeding, to those deep depths, finds, purest genus is the one lasting prototype.

Cryptic as it is, that is the key.

Our remarkable blog Winx came from Herod asserted the Herod prototype. Researchers take similar view: archetypal Herod is King.

We may ask: where are those factors today, what may again transmit the distinguished class?

Ancestry-on-repeat and always, always, genetics mitDNA to reflect again ‘why’ evolutionary ‘roots’: the ancestral attributed Family 5 – the Belvoir strain – uniquely labelled ‘special’. Kingdoms & war-horses, horse- breeding, Christianity, European feudalism, knights & territories. …the evolution of the Thoroughbred, probably by the inter-breeding Buckingham’s Spanish imports with the pre-existing Rutland bred hobby horses & Galloways.

Through the ages…it all equates to a key principle; a horse is genuine, bred ‘fit’ to its type (of kind) duty, as also goes the modern equivalent i.e. to race and win like a champion.

As conventional ‘methods’ apply in-breeding, line-breeding and RF to most breeders modis operandi, those helpful determinations are not always to bearing the finest.

Many usual patterns through pedigrees (i.e. Sadlers Wells, Mr Prospector, Danehill etc) come almost rather ‘close’ to a varied similarity. And though the data of popular successful nicks to those siring sons has its record – it is historical inclined, without yet aiding, how latency is still ‘gold’.

Sourcing influences as transmitting ideal traits to pedigree, via the individual what ‘gave’ – we shall conclude: right conduit trait will ‘sharpen’ and underpin the breeding be it through maternal or paternal.

it does little good to go through a litany of linebreeding crosses if we cannot learn how to exploit the newly gained knowledge in the future. Les Brinsfield The Pedigree Post

As ‘said’, the purpose follows – an early and high performing/enduring individual bred bred fit to its pressured ‘sport’ development & of demands to commercial sector, has really commanded an extreme demanding charter upon the thoroughbred horse.

Such charter….ultimately shapes/uptakes a specific biological geno/phenotype character: precocious capacity to sprint and stay (at pace) to sprint and burst with complete domination.

“keep things simple and we will see that there is no way of measuring a certain distance and which speed ends and staying power begins. It would be like trying to determine where cold ends and heat begins. It is all relative”. Speed and Staying Power, Federico Tesio – Breeding the Racehorse.

First-up, to our exclusive profile series to come…Exceptional Conduits 

The first subject ‘horse’: the late Sir Henry Cecil described him as one of the great mile horses of the century – genuine and with immense ability.

With a race record of fourteen victories and two seconds from sixteen races, let’s identify Kris/Sharpen Up.

Kris’s sire, Sharpen Up from his lesser reputable US sire Atan (Native Dancer), yet with dam Roccheeta’s breeding, the explosion, to the breeding of juvenile champions to best sons Kris, full brother and champion 2 year old colt Diesis.

stallions can be like grass, they can spring up where there wasn’t any growth before – Charlie Whittingham, Hall of Fame trainer.

Kris sired Irish-bred, Triple crown winning filly Oh So Sharp (Kris x Oh So Fair (USA) and mare, Unite (Kris x Pro Patria) winning Epsom and Irish Oaks.

Find Kris/Sharpen Up to Invincible Spirit (IRE)(Green Desert x Rafha ex-Kris) his shattering record for 2yo winners, to his Australian siring son I am Invincible the no. 1 sire of 2 year olds 2018/19. 

High Chaparral (Sadlers Wells x Kasora, grandam sire Kris) – champion 3 year old colt England/Ireland sire of black type winners Contributer, Dundeel, So you Think, Descarado, Shoot out, Toronado, Monoco Consul, Rekindling etc.

Crystal Ocean –  currently ranked world no.1 horse (Sea the Stars x Crystal Star, 3rd dam sire KRIS)

The 3 year old Germany’s Derby winning colt, Laccario by Scalo (GB) from Laccato (GB) –noting Sharpen Up (5×5)

The consistent US performer, Get Stormy (Stormy Atlantic (USA) from Foolish Gal to broodmare sire Kiris Clown, his dam sired by KRIS.

The equivalent conduit to many American bred lines is Hoist the Flag, grandson of Ribot.

Hoist the Flag went described with an exceptional fluid gait – (hints) a bio-mechanical efficiency. 

Hoist the Flag- a champion 2 year old colt & highly-noted for leading juvenile sire and broodmare sire. As stallion, he died ‘short’ – at age of 12. 

Hoist the Flag influence is worth noting to 2019 Kentucky Derby disqualified winning hero Maximum Security and the lovely world class mare Zenyatta by Street Cry to his sire Machiavellian. And, of course Winx….

The world ranked Australian bred Santa Ana Lane (AUS) by Lope de Vega from Fast Fleet (AUS) noting Machiavellian and the 4th dam sire Hoist the Flag.

History Hall of Fame and All-Time greatness, the undefeated – PERSONAL ENSIGN – (Private Account from, Grecian Banner by Hoist the Flag) 

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TBL conclusion…it is not only in/linebreeding but where to establish ‘right’ conduit inheritance that bite ‘hard’, as possible latent factor, indicated from those superior individuals & as demonstrated through their racing and breeding feats. Their incredible ‘intangible’ phenotype, to what surely has its economical bio-mechanical strength. i.e. phenotyped  correctness. 

Kris/Diesis/Sharpen Up, Hoist the Flag truly merits any pedigree well. 

And here the latest KRIS influence: look to the close, maternal pedigree, 3rd dam of the very exciting 5 times winning, 2 year old colt Pinatubo (Shamardal x. Lava Flow). Shamardal/broodmare sire Machiavellian (Hoist the Flag)

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Kris was the kingpin in Europe over 8 furlongs winning 7 races including the St. Jame’s Palace stakes at Royal Ascot, Sussex Stakes (Goodwood) & the Waterford Crystal Mile & Queen Elizabeth II stakes at Ascot. Evening Times 1980.

Hoist the Flag’s breeding stats, do not tell the full story….

Shiekh Hamdan was the first to buy a share and breed a mare to Diesis and he supported him his entire career. He was (as) aware of his successful brother Kris. – Talkin Horses. (as response appreciating Sharpen Up breeding to world-class runners.)

Painstaking, intelligent, sometimes intuitive choice of a maternal grandsire can lead to the creation of celebrated nicks, where the blending of two sire names leads to the production of a new, superior brand of racing animal. Primacy of the Genes – Ross du Bourg

Genius defies logic….

(post blog update: Desert Encounter (IRE) by Halling (ex-Diesis) from La Chicana (Invincible Spirit) → KRIS. A consistent performer and winner of Canadian International Stakes.

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Winx came from Herod

23 Sunday Jun 2019

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Crofts Partner, Federico Tesio, Herod, Hyperion, Mercuryt, So You Think, St Simon, Tartar, Winx

1758 King Herod was a bay horse of about 15 hands, three inches high; he was a steed of substance, great speed and power. His figure was uncommonly symmetrical. Page 267, 268 Antecdotes of Horses, and the Allied Species by Captain Thomas Brown 1830

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It came with little surprise where new science research establishes St Simon ‘Y’ ‘links’ with more Herod variants, than those to Eclipse: (*further reference & credit below)

St Simon line-bred places duplication’s – Herod 55x, to Eclipses 41x.

To the infinite subject, what keeps the pedigree fires going because of dying-down diversity to a fixed Northern Dancer/Mr Prospector/Native Dancer prototype, the assessments must be made by way of other strains.  In-breeding and line-breeding determinations as rhyme n’ reason totality, can find the action is going elsewhere.

The map, is not the territory.

It is an exercise to unravel how ancestral ‘close’ incestuous like, breeding relationships (strains, genealogical ties) come tied deep, through the breeding. It clearly places the HOW.

The important depths, of the genealogical body established well before a classification to split-like designations represented as family numbers indexed to race-name individuals.

Aside from in-breeding, or line-breeding preferences, the complexes go deep into detail WITH a long view to ‘outer’ supporting ‘strain’ players of the contemporary pedigree, which seemingly, come from a very similar but oblique genetic pool.

Identifying what is adept breeding, is at best, ascertaining to where the ‘jewel’ fits not to pedigree but to its guide, purpose & trigger for an appealing pedigree. Whilst we know things aren’t done that way anymore as due to bloodstock commercial enterprises, the correct stallion choices are to be well-considered.

So…

What was Federico Tesio thinking – breeding through St Simon lines, to the distinguishing features he so esteemed.

 Tesio describes –

       – the idea was to produce and grow a racehorse that compared to its rivals, would run through space, mounted with the highest weight, covering any distance in the shortest time. I knew this would be a difficult task but not an impossible one, since I had seen many horses and read many books. I knew I had knowledge to succeed.

The truth of matter was that I had learned to read and to see, but had not yet, learned how to think….about why things happen.

from, Breeding the Racehorse, Federico Tesio

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“In the year 1867 at a Napoleonic Exhibition in Paris, a competition was organized for horses which would carry the largest load in proportion to their own weight. The unexpected result (i.e. not that of a draught horse bred (size) but was to a light breed of small well proportions…..” Horse breeding Theory & Practice – B. Von Oettingen

By viewing fascinating footage: Blenheim, Mahmoud, Winx, at best view the necessary quadruple locomotive action: power and unique gait/action. It’s the unique energy-efficiency to its ‘saving’ of energy where today’s finest racehorses have the ‘physical’ difference & cuts a superior performer from others.

“Gait patterns and their efficiency are equally important for both types of energy production (i.e. anaerobic/aerobic performance)” – Australasian Throughbred Science Review

Take examination, experience, understanding, skill acquired…. to observe an animals intricate mobility to its placement of feet, the light, effortless traction to rhythm ‘timing’;   its ‘carriage’ of head not separate BUT to shoulder/leg ‘oiled’ to an oblong perfect frame, pieces together a silk/glide ease. It is the kinetic motion of walk, as 1st quality to a finesse of gait.

Phenotype and unseen conformation means…..

“The biomechanics of the vertebral column, although very complex, are of vital importance because they form the basis of all body movements” – ScienceofMotion.com

“Each horse is designed to “vibrate” at is own frequency” Jean Luc Cornille

“The chestnut Hyperion, a son of the WW1 Triple Crown winner Gainsborough and the top-class staying mare Selene, was one of the most sweet-tempered and also one of the smallest horses to gain the highest honours….no more than 15.1½ h.h. when he won the Derby in 1933, but he made up for his lack of size by absolutely perfect conformation nd sweeping action at the gallop……” The Classic Racehorse – Peter Willett

 St Simon– close observers spoke of his ‘electricity’ and said that he moved ‘as if made of elastic’.

He was never extended, let alone beaten, in any of his races, and he had that aptitude, possessed burst of speed that left even top-class opponents reeling within a few strides.

Long times ago there from a particular small horse pony breed of attributes/ characteristics to those collective genotype/phenotype qualities as described above. This enigmatic breed & individual, mare of traits (to her breed) had surely special significance throughout horse-breeding of those ages; there she goes, conduit to Herod’s pedigree.

Our on-line sources supply little detail, other than Shields Galloway, she the dam of Tartar, Herod’s sire. However….The Horse-Breeders Handbook of 1898, details: This mare was bred by Mr Curwen of Workington, Cumberland. She was the most famous galloway of her time, notwithstanding which her breeding has not been preserved. img_20190622_183945-01435237667.jpeg

The Curwen galloway link to thoroughbreds  conveys a wonderful historical truth.

There is further Curwen breeding “the pedigree of the dam of Spot, who was bred by Mr Curwen, not preserved – daughter of the White-legged Lowther Barb.” ref. as above HBH

Curwens Bay Barb “this Barb brought into England by Mr Curwen who also imported the Tholouse Barb, both of whom he obtained in France from Count Thoulouse, a natural son of Louis XIV. They covered few mares besides Mr Curwen’s.” ref. as above HBH

– foundations to Herod’s grand-sire Crofts Partner, he the sire of Tartar, attributed to  family 9

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Is it, these characteristic features, of the ancient Galloway breed which Tesio ‘triggered’ as his plan, via St Simon, as he described?

He explains: “nature’s attempt to return to their original pure state” thus having acquired his use of Mendelian principles first hand, knowingly applied, at-origin-purity Principle to the best of his matings.

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**TBL side notes: My research re-examined  1)Winx  2) So You Think (NZ) – with attention to their phenotype gait-gallop style – ascertaining genotype, the traits of breeding may have evolved from. 

Further….the historical – The Horse-Breeding in theory & practice B. Von. Oettingen reads (ref. Winx’s  family index – f.f. 5-b)) **an ancestral dam named Marigold by Herod, female family 5-b. OF Marigold foundations, details: a Sister to Silver, i.e. Silver (by Mercury from Herod) Miss Cantley, (viz. a Mercury dam from Herod, Belvoirina (a Mercury dam, from Herod) Platina (a Mercury dam, from Herod) plus another sister, unknown img_20190514_131930-01733215847.jpeg

     – n.b. pedigreequery.com  has Marigold by Herod to the (ff. 9), She has 3 fillies, sired by Mercury , attributed to f.f. 9, plus another filly sired by Mambrino f.f. 9

**[the point to note: Mercury-Herod cross, inbred to Tartar, plus the family 5 & 9 are akin, close.

the affiliation is where Winx’s ancestral grand-dam is a Herod dam, a pedigree inbred to Herod/Tartar 3x’s.

So You Think (NZ) – ancestress Olympia 1815 (5 strains to Herod, within 5 generations) n.b. there is much more SYT detail to share… possibly Later date…

 

Research & on-line reference – credits:

http://www.tbheritage.com/GeneticMarkers/mtdnaintbdamlines3.html

the fell pony museum

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/age.12580 –

http://www.scienceofmotion.com/

https://archive.org/stream/curwensofworking00jack/curwensofworking00jack_djvu.txt

http:// /stream/biographicalsket1830brow#page/268/mode/2up

http://www.kirkcudbright.co/historyarticle.asp?ID=349

http://www.scottishmultimedia.co.uk/galloways

https://www.horsetalk.co.nz/2015/04/14/gait-keeper-genes-influence-cantering-standardbreds/https://www.horsetalk.co.nz/2019/04/25/secrets-horse-y-chromosome/

The Horse Breeding In Theory & Practice – B. von Oettingen

Horse-Breeders Handbook 1898 Joseph Osborne

The Classic Racehorse – Peter Willett

 

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